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tony rave schreef: ↑

24 sep 2021 20:07

Ik heb 5.8 nog niet, ben ook wat terughoudend om deze te installeren want het is veel werk om alles weer naar voorkeur in te stellen mocht ik terug willen gaan naar 5.5.
Die nieuwe bug is mij niet duidelijk: de vertaalde omschrijving is wellicht de oorzaak dat ik niet begrijp wat je precies bedoelt.
Kun je de engelse of duitse tekst er bij plaatsen? Dan begrijp ik het wellicht beter. Of een afbeelding?

Je bedoelt dat in dagmodus (display instelling) de witte achtergrond van de Track-GPX lijst niet blijft staan?

I try in english, maybe you can better understand. The bug in 5.80 can be reproduced, if you have multiple tracks. If all tracks are NOT enabled for showing on map, you will have a small black field on the left side of the track in the selection menu. But If you enable a track with black color (or a different color) to show on map, the mentioned field on left side will now have a small white color border arround the choosen color. This is especially needed, when a track has configured a black color.

Example: https://imgur.com/a/ofunhZ7 (All tracks are enabled to be shown on map and have a color (black, red, green) assigned)

Second image shows, when I am activly scrolling (using keys to scroll). You can see, that all colors have a white boarder, so you know, that those tracks are enabled to be shown on map. First image shows, when I have stopped scrolling. In this case, after stopping scrolling in the list, the white boarders disappear and you can't anymore see, if a track is enabled or not.

The funny thing is, this only happens, when you are on day mode (theme). If you are on night mode, it works correctly and the white boarder is always being shown!

Ja, duidelijk nu, bedankt voor de toelichting. Ik zal 5.8 installeren zodra beschikbaar.

Toch weer half werk geleverd door de 'Professionals', maar dat is helaas iets wat we al kennen.
Het zou hen sieren als ze binnenkort de nog openstaande correcties nu voor de verandering eens allemaal en in 1 keer goed deden.

tony rave schreef: ↑

25 sep 2021 10:50

Het zou hen sieren als ze binnenkort de nog openstaande correcties nu voor de verandering eens allemaal en in 1 keer goed deden.

Maar ja, dan worden de topics erg kort.

Het zal 'marketing' zijn!
Een vroegere baas zei altijd 'als je carrière wilt maken moet je opvallen, goed of slecht dat maakt niet uit'.

ConiKost schreef: ↑

24 sep 2021 21:48

The funny thing is, this only happens, when you are on day mode (theme). If you are on night mode, it works correctly and the white boarder is always being shown!

Just now installed 5.8 but I see no such problem. The white or black frame around the colour-bar shows up and remains steady. Also when scrolling up/down the track list, changing from day- to night- or auto-setting and scrolling through various screens in Automotive as well as in Marine mode.
On the picture you made available (night mode) I can't distinguish the white frame around the colour bars, but on my apparatus these are clearly visible.

As far as I see it this issue has been solved.
Perhaps the 5.8. that I got has meanwhile been modified? How/when did you get the update?
I got my 5.8 via the 276Cx WiFi connection during the course of this afternoon, not via Express.

Another difference:
In my case I don't see the small black field on the left of the trackname (if no tracks set visible on screen) nor the white dot in case of selecting a black track colour.
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Could you try to enable N509E731, N509E882, N510E880 for showing on map and try again with scrolling?
Could you also try to set for all tracks a black color and see, if it happens then during scrolling in day mode?

Tried as well, can't see anything wrong and when scrolling the particular bars remain properly attached to their tracks.
All bars black in 'day' view is okay, not shown here.
. First popup-map trials seem okay but too soon to be convinced.
Menu altimeter still missing that 'change data fields' option.
Loading maps to SD via MapInstall not yet tried.

Minor 'fault' I see is that there's no visible frame around the black bars in day-view.
Probably a frame is there but always in black colour, thus not visible with black bars.
The yellow bar shows that black frame.

But this flaw is not what you mean, I presume.
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Waar kun je die 5.80 vinden ? Als ik via Garmin Express kijk dan kan ik alleen 5.70 installeren, en die wil ik nou juist overslaan....

tony rave schreef: ↑

25 sep 2021 19:18

But this flaw is not what you mean, I presume.

Yes, this is, what I mean. When not scrolling, it's missing completly. But not only for black color, but for all colors, while in night mode, it's present for all colors.

Noppie schreef: ↑

26 sep 2021 15:20

Waar kun je die 5.80 vinden ? Als ik via Garmin Express kijk dan kan ik alleen 5.70 installeren, en die wil ik nou juist overslaan....

Wacht een paar dagen. Garmin rolt nieuwe firmwareversies gefaseerd uit, waardoor het enkele dagen kan duren voordat iedereen via Garmin Express kan updaten.

ConiKost schreef: ↑

26 sep 2021 21:48

Yes, this is, what I mean.

True, it's not perfect and the consequence of a fixed border (frame) colour, black for day-view and white for night-view.
I guess it involves much more programming effort to select a variable and contrasting border (frame) for each possible situation.

In fact it's good enough for me because in all cases it shows wether a track is set to be visible or not. I think this is a useful addition and, knock on wood, I haven't yet seen the popup map going wrong again. Seems 5.8 can stay until a next update restores the original altimeter menu.

tony rave schreef: ↑

27 sep 2021 10:23

ConiKost schreef: ↑

26 sep 2021 21:48

Yes, this is, what I mean.

True, it's not perfect and the consequence of a fixed border (frame) colour, black for day-view and white for night-view.
I guess it involves much more programming effort to select a variable and contrasting border (frame) for each possible situation.

In fact it's good enough for me because in all cases it shows wether a track is set to be visible or not. I think this is a useful addition and, knock on wood, I haven't yet seen the popup map going wrong again. Seems 5.8 can stay until a next update restores the original altimeter menu.

If you have some time, could you report that to Garmin?

I can't believe, that I didn't noticed that earlier. Garmin finally fixed the display shift issue. On newer revisions of the 276Cx, the display was about 1-2 pixel to much left aligned. This did not ouccured on older revisions of GPSMap 276Cx.

Yes, I already did inform Garmin about my findings concerning 5.8 which update became available to me shortly after they wrote that a next update could take several months.
To my opinion this speed also proves that their recent statement 'we can't reproduce any of your issues' was incorrect.

What do you mean with the display shifted a few pixels too much to the left? I believe to have never noticed that.
Is it the total illuminated area being off centre, e.g. the canvas width left less than right?
Or the space between the menu column (left) and the main window was too narrow?

tony rave schreef: ↑

27 sep 2021 21:19

Yes, I already did inform Garmin about my findings concerning 5.8 which update became available to me shortly after they wrote that a next update could take several months.
To my opinion this speed also proves that their recent statement 'we can't reproduce any of your issues' was incorrect.

Great, thank you!

tony rave schreef: ↑

27 sep 2021 21:19

What do you mean with the display shifted a few pixels too much to the left? I believe to have never noticed that.
Is it the total illuminated area being off centre, e.g. the canvas width left less than right?
Or the space between the menu column (left) and the main window was too narrow?

If I remember correctly, you device is older and you bought it in 2017? This only affects, from my current knowledge, only devices, which are newer from 2019 and on. On those devices, the display output was shifted to left side on 1-2pixel. This means, you could see on the right side a black line from top to down and on left side, 1-2 pixel where completly missing. See private message for a demo video.